honestratings

We just found this surf site and signed up we usually offer monitoring to new sites as they come up. Much to my surprise this admin has a rediculous attitude he needs to learn how to treat prospective members. I saw that he has a different processor and went to the site to check it out i made what they call a location but didnt immediately understand how to fund the account. Anyhow i went and signed up at xlotwo and checked the members area out went to the various pages including the upgrade page when i still had no idea how someone adds funds i proceeded to attempt a spend and see if his site would redirect to a egold form or something once the transaction was initiated from the surf site. well it didnt it simply said i didnt have funds to cover the transaction and i backed out of the transaction and back into the members area. Once back there we asked if he would like to list his site on our monitor through the contact form. Immediately i got a very rude email from andy accusing me of placing fake upgrades into his system or at least attempting to. first thing is what we sent them offering monitoring.

This was andy's immediate response

We then sent back this mail to him...

Honestly how can this guy run a successful site acting like this to someone that might be a prospective member.

opie999

It's interesting that two people, so far, would consider making a spend but neither of them thought this thread should remain in the "Surf Discussion" folder.

This is the kind of stuff that drives statisticians loony.

Heheh...welll a trend seems to be developing (duh). Let's give it a couple more days and, barring a drastic reversal, we'll relegate this one to the dung heap!

Thanks for your patience everyone!

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gaby

Hey opie...
don't go loony just yet

most people will be accustomed to single selection polls and will not consider selecting two options ... that must be the reason for the weird results... they thought more important to post their spend-intention ..

just a thought..

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slappy

Well, business must not be picking up like Andy and TD thought, because as I looked at several forums this morning, there is a whole bunch of Andy cheerleaders trying to turn the tide. Hopefully nobody buys into what they're saying. In the end, sweet justice would be if the site only lasted a few months. He's still trying to sell the site to people by way of the first xlo lasting 12 months, forgetting to mention that in the end, everyone lost because he ran off with their money as well as $25,000 from Krimm. I hope this guy gets what he deserves in the end. Also, I just want to add that some well known bloggers, TD especially, should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this guys programs. A known thief/scammer/crook/whatever you want to call him, but shame on you, you know better.

longfellaz

Not everyone lost in Andys programs. I made a nice profit in both.

If it weren't for that pp he's using I'd probably get in this one too.

I don't trust him as before but I don't trust any admins these days.

I'd just as soon take my chances with him as any other.

I guess we all have our own view of things.

Simon

Isn't that PP of his using the "loom" method of random drop-off points? I presume it's self-contained, rather than being an affiliate of anything else?

Just curious - I have to admit the whole secret drop off point setup is a nice one, and so simple too! Not that it does anyone much good if its run by someone who's integrity isn't what it should be.

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sharonsopinion

I agree that this is no different than wiredsurf (2). I moved it to the scam folder. Andy will have to prove that it doesn't belong here.

Andy: What are you doing to generate revenue outside of XLOtwo and can you prove it?

JMO,
Sharon

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slappy

Sharon, the problem with Andy is, he won't "prove" anything. I asked for proof of the so called losses, when he stole people's money in TFT and he refused to provide anything. All he kept saying is, "there were losses." Coincidently, those losses supposedly took place during the month when he took in the most deposits. This topic is exactly where it belongs, in the scam section. Also, as someone else pointed out, this surf may very well be an attempt to keep his forex program going longer. After all, that is how xlo made it to a year(feeding off of TFT). Anyway, I just hope everyone stays away from his programs.

opie999

Hey, gab.

Yeah, that was my first thought too but there is another possibility. These two individuals are considering a spend and they voted that the thread belongs in the "Scam Folder". That's how a calculating, hard core ponzi player would vote, don't you think?

Just another thought.

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gaby

Indeed, very calculated move ..

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