Conciliator

January the 3rd has come and gone and there's still nothing in my account. That's 7 business days I think.

What the hell is going on with Dan? Where is he? Where is our money?

makila

Grrr, sorry Conciliator, I wish I had an answer. I hate it when people break their word.
Maybe Dan originally had honest intentions but its going seriously wrong here.

And sorry to say this, BUT barely any of the public hyip programs that Jude listed in his portfolio, as far as I remember, is not in trouble. They are all either posting 0% now, not paying or simply *gone*.

Maybe Jude is correct when he says its best to give up hyip's, because despite doing serious DD before accepting a program, less than 20% of his hyip portfolio does not *scam*. DD doesnt work because admins still think people wont make the effort to start a lawsuit.

Thats why Jude shouldnt give up on Marcos and Peter, and keep trying to sue them. Else every scammer thinks they can get away with it. if they are not sued, DD will become totally useless!

Lets start concentrating more on serious stuff. It would safe us a lot of grief.

monds6

I sent Dan a PM a few days ago, and am still waiting for an answer. I was supposed to be refunded in December, but no word. He does not even have my banking details so I know it won't magically appear there.

jbone

Dan,
I emailed you at both your yahoo & Life-Holdings address about my long due withdrawal several weeks ago. Could you please respond. I need this money urgently.
Thank you.
Jbone

Jude

I guess it's either getting him to answer everyone here or to take actions.

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Iotaman00

I said a while back this program isn't called Life Holdings for nothing seem like he's holding our money for life. Dan be a man about this and get this situation taken care of. You keep on lying to these people about making payments but we havent seen a damn thing. Respond to the damn emails Dan. No more excuses about your computer crashing and you being offline for a few days we don't want to hear them anymore. Oh yeah and you are one unanswered email and broken promise to pay away from being in the scam folder. It sound harsh but this the nobullshit network and what youve been giving us all this time is bullshit. Now Dan its time for you to take some action give us our money.

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Iotaman00
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Jude

Hey Iotaman, calm down.

I'm trying to get him to pick up his phone and will ask him to answer EVERY of his email with a estimate date of when you guys are getting back your refunds.

If this doesn't happen, I'll fly to Romania myself to find him. This is the last ever trust I will have on a person with my money and if it fails.. Well, its the end of HYIPs anyway.

I still consider him as a friend. So I'd ask everyone to calm down a little while I give him a big nudge.

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allinvain

don't worry if you don't get to him I sure will...I'll be flying to Romania this summer and I can come back with a bag full of your monies ..hmm..so I guess we should give Dan a bit more time to see if he will at least respond in public to members concerns.

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Conciliator

Still nothing in my account. Have you seen your money Jude? Any luck getting ahold of Dan?

Why the hell do I feel like I'm working with PeterB again... geez.

makila

Mmm Simon of MWA, Steven/Stijn of IS .. mmmm *Thinking hard*
Nicka(still co-admin) and Andrew(Now retired) from Gobubble ..
That is my list of program owners which stayed honest.(so far)

Mike Burns of askmiky was also honest I believe, but he made bad business decisions...

[Then we have Dan still, with a question mark right now. Yvonne/Jorg from profits2004 and BalticForexGroup could be honest as well, just failed business, not sure...]

So that are 4 honest groups of admininistrations in 7-8 years HYIP.
Okay okay, I probably still miss a few honest folks(so please dont be offended if your name is not on my list), lets say they were/are 8 honest admininistrations in 8 years HYIP.
Thats ON average, just one honest program that pops up every year!
This is a pathetic low rate.

Honesty online? Yes, it seems to exist, but its more rare to find honest administration then it is to win the lottery with 6 digits! It is just incredible how rare honesty is on the net. Especially in the hyip sections. When I started playing with hyips 8 years ago, I knew most were scam, but that their was so few honesty in this investment world, is still even today, a very big shock to me.