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Thanks Sharon,
As i am not a US resident i am not totally familiar with IRA so not sure what level of DD they would perform. If they have investigated the why they use the loads to generate the profits, then thats great. I guess the level of DD of greater then any one of us usually performs, or is permitted t perform! I guess the IRA is a why to include investments tax free into your pension plans?
I will be looking forward to when the new web site opens again!
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Yep, an IRA is just a retirement investment plan that the government agrees not to tax. Here in Canada we call them RRSP's or Registered Retirement Savings Plans. There is a panoply of "registered" (meaning tax free) investment programs.
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I apologize for opening the can of worms et el "SEC". I just thought it was important to cover all bases just in case it comes up again in the future, and the fact that it was mentioned earlier in this thread. I have confidence that Craig's lawyer knows how to handle the SEC shark if and when it will start to circle EBL and before it will bite EBL. I'm still elated by the news from epayday about his Roth - IRA being approved by Pensco to be loaned through EBL.
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I am also using IRA (Roth & Traditional) funds to put into EBL, but I'm not using Pensco. It's important to realize that each trustee has different requirements. Some (most) won't allow these kinds of transactions, while others might. Pensco is just one trustee who does. I have an account with RBC Dain Rauscher and they didn't need to know anything about the specific vehicle that I was using. This is because I set up an LLC and had my IRA's purchase a stake in it. The LLC then does whatever it wants (buys real estate, loans money to EBL, etc...).
epayday's method doesn't require setting up an LLC which has the advantage of less documentation and accounting. Not sure if I could have done it this way with my trustee which is why I went the route that I did. Just goes to show you that there's more than one way to skin a cat I guess.
For those contemplating this kind of move, please make sure you have a good accountant who knows how to deal with these kinds of transactions. You can create quite a mess if you don't set up and manage these transactions properly.
BTW, epayday and I have discussed this over the phone quite a bit. We are both going to visit CJ in LV this weekend.
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Just out of interest, what DD would Pensco Trust have carried out??
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Thanks Sharon,
As i am not a US resident i am not totally familiar with IRA so not sure what level of DD they would perform. If they have investigated the why they use the loads to generate the profits, then thats great. I guess the level of DD of greater then any one of us usually performs, or is permitted t perform! I guess the IRA is a why to include investments tax free into your pension plans?
I will be looking forward to when the new web site opens again!
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Here is a link to what was done as part of the DD by Pensco:
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - EarnByLoaning - earnbyloaning.com
You can also find lots more due diligence info gathered together here:
Click here for more information!
Hope that helps. 
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We are both going to visit CJ in LV this weekend.
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BTW, epayday and I have discussed this over the phone quite a bit. We are both going to visit CJ in LV this weekend.
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I assume that the weekend meet didn't happen? A few days have gone by with no comment. (Never mind, I saw a post at Golden Talk about it, more info would be nice though.)
BTW, why do we have two EBL threads now?
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I assume that the weekend meet didn't happen? A few days have gone by with no comment. (Never mind, I saw a post at Golden Talk about it, more info would be nice though.)
BTW, why do we have two EBL threads now?
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The meeting did take place. I don't want to take their place, but I gave an update on this here based on their post in another forum:
GoldenTalk - The best forum about HYIP (High Yield Investment Programs) - View Single Post - EarnByLoaning
They can add their additional comments as they see fit.
Hope that helps.
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I found it. Well, the report could have been a lot better. But what can I say. I guess I would have to meet CJ one of these days and report what I find.
EarnByLoaning - earnbyloaning.com - Page 24 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum
Anyway, picard could have come back here and reported to us, some of us were waiting to hear from him over here.
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I assume that the weekend meet didn't happen? A few days have gone by with no comment. (Never mind, I saw a post at Golden Talk about it, more info would be nice though.)
BTW, why do we have two EBL threads now?
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I have to get into the habit of visiting here more often. I spend most of my time on talk gold.
The quotes that 4ebl pulled were from me and can be found at:
Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum - View Single Post - EarnByLoaning - earnbyloaning.com
CJ left me with the impression that he was someone that I can trust. He's smart with his personal money as well as the money he works with in his business. He's more of a 'character' than I expected for an accountant, but I really like him.
Though I can't share what we discussed publicly, I will say that my confidence in the program is even higher than it was a week ago (and it was reasonable high before I went).
I think epayday feels the same as I do.
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The migration to the new website has started. Those who were about to sign up will have to wait until the new website is online. I know we were told hopefully it will be up around July 4th, but it looks like no promises are being made. Also, you now have to provide your ID papers to get your withdrawals.
Earn By Loaning is getting even more legal as the days pass. I am very excited about the fact that this has turned out to be a great program to be in.
I bet those who lost their shirts in the illegal e-gold HYIPs are now wishing they hadn't laughed and insulted me in the early days and had made a deposit here instead. Too bad. It's now my time to laugh, all the way to the bank.
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Hi Guys,
Effective 9 am EST time Sunday( New York time for you international guys)
The EBL site will be closed off to new members.
Effective Immediately...
We are also closing off ANY new loans.
Q-Why....?
A-We are testing and migrating data etc.. to the new site.
Q-How long will it be closed off for?
A-We can not give you a definate date and time but it will be in July.
Q- Can I still log into my account
A- Yes
Q- Will my Current pending deposit still go through
A- Yes
Q- Can I still make Withdrawals
A- Yes... But we need to have your ID documentation as outlined in the TOS.
If you have any IMPORTANT questions please ask on the forum, but please do not
ask for information on the new site, only what pertains to the old site.
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The migration to the new website has started. Those who were about to sign up will have to wait until the new website is online. I know we were told hopefully it will be up around July 4th, but it looks like no promises are being made. Also, you now have to provide your ID papers to get your withdrawals.
Earn By Loaning is getting even more legal as the days pass. I am very excited about the fact that this has turned out to be a great program to be in.
I bet those who lost their shirts in the illegal e-gold HYIPs are now wishing they hadn't laughed and insulted me in the early days and had made a deposit here instead. Too bad. It's now my time to laugh, all the way to the bank.
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Laughing at others misfortunes is not a great idea.
You never know when it's going to come back around. Besides, I'd like to see everyone succeed in what they do... Why not? Makes the world a better place IMHO.
Heck, I've had my share of ridicule, but in my experience, rising above it make me not only stonger, but a lot happier to.
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