Jude

i have a hard time swallowing this one; on whether he's speaking the truth or not.

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24oz

Do you guys really believe it?

allinvain

hmm..my gut instinct tells me no. I don't think Peter planned that e-mail to well because it contains some ambiguities and oddities of procedure, like for example, why in the heck would he transfer (this is what he's suggesting in his e-mail) the e-gold from North Finance to e-gold and then try to transfer it again to another broker.

First he says that he was in the process of moving from an e-gold based trading platform to a dollar one.

Then he says.

"Well I moved the funds to e-gold and was in the process of transferring them to another trading platform when we got severely hacked"

What is the point of moving the e-gold funds from an e-gold based platform to his e-gold account and then to another e-gold based platform? Is this what he meant by that statement? Is this just an example of poor english? Why would he not instead have left the gold in the account and then used an exchanger to exchange the e-gold for dollars in his bank account, THEN move the money back into a dollar based brokerage!

JoseLeon

It could be easier:

from NorthFinance to a bank account directly, NorthFinance use a cyprus bank and permit bank transfers...

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konig

I wonder if the following emails from <admin@club-fxtrader.com> on April 27 2007 at 6:03 & 6:04 pm respectively mean anything. I have not yet placed any funds into the account. (Good Luck perhaps??) When I attempted to forward my concerns to Peter B, I was unable to access my account. I then re-registered and forwarded the emails I had rec'd to Peter B. That was on Saturday the 28th April 2007. (No response, now I see why?) Then of course came the news today "Very very bad news..... Just thought I'd add this to the fray here, it may mean BS or..............????

Cheers,

Koing


Emails- Sent to me on April 27 2007
Dear koing, your Withdrawal Request for $ 50 has been Processed.
Dear koing, your Withdrawal Request for $ 300 has been Processed.

Jude

the site doesn't matter anymore with the funds being lost. i still dont believe pete on how did he lose his funds after thinking through for a long while. he'll have to explain it.

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allinvain

Exactly! That's the exact reason I am highly suspicious. I smell something fishy.

allinvain

"Hi all,

Ok, this is the recovery plan. I have secured enough money to make a start, it will take a few days to get it to trade but that's not a problem.

1. I will be trading with the money I borrowed and paying members back on a monthly basis.

2. Nothing is guaranteed, I am doing this because I value my good name more than your e-gold and The risk is all on me.

3. I am using my own assets to secure the funds. I don't have to do this, we were genuinly hacked and I have an e-gold account to prove it, and letters to and from e-gold etc.

4. Once I start re-paying everyone I will not tollerate this kind of abuse. Conciliator, that especially includes you.

5. Any decisions that I make are mine to make since I am using my own assets to help you get your e-gold back.

6. I have closed the site e-mail, I don't appreciate hate mail at a time like this. Those that sent hate mail can forget about getting anything back.

7. I will be aiming to give everyone a portion of the amount they deposited each month till the whole amount has been settled, I do not guarantee any profits but if things go well... well, we'll see.

8. If I recover any of the stolen funds it becomes mine, including (if there is enough recovered) any profits associated. However I do not believe at this time that there is any hope of recovering anything.

I will restore an email for the members to use to contact me once everyone has calmed down a little.

When the e-gold situation first broke out I had a flury of e-mails saying that we should look for an alternative, since I trade on more than one platform it is not too difficult for me to move funds from one to the other, however one is e-gold and the other is not, (and there is very little in that account. So to move the money from the e-gold platform i needed to first put it in e-gold then send it by wire through Omnipay. That's not too hard to see, I did it before without any problems if you can remember when we moved from Marketiva. also I told everyone after the fact, even a little common sense says don't tell anyone you're moving money, before we got hacked members were saying get out of e-gold, now that we have been hacked members are saying why did you do it...!!! Well I did it because of the situation with e-gold. It was a prudent thing to do at the time.

Why did I do it all at once? well if you think back and try to remember, there was a sense of urgency at the time with the e-gold situation, You probably would have done the same thing under the same circumstances.

Why haven't I posted any more proof af what happened? well I was giving anyone who asked all the proof that I had, including letters to and from e-gold, screenshots of the e-gold account etc and still I was getting shot down, if the correspondence from e-gold and screen shots were not enough then nothing will be, The dogs were out to get me and nothing was going to stop them. So why bother.

The way I am working it now everyone will get their money back and I'll be able to sleep at night, even tho' I know I could still have a clear concience even if I don't do this... we were hacked, I never stole anyones money.

I'm sticking my neck out here, I'm not asking for gratitud, but a little acknowlegment and less tearing my heart out will be helpfull. I've already lost enough and now I'm committing to try make sure that you dont lose also. So to all the winers, wind your neck in, dry your eyes and lets get on with it.

Regards
PeterB"

Read this folks!!!

Steven IS

Ok,

He first loses the funds, everyone gets pissed. Then he does the incredible gesture of putting his own money in and try to recover it himself.. WOW

Sorry, but if he was a scammer, he just got like 70-80% of the funds for himself and can pay back 20-30% and say he did a great job.

What makes me even more suspicious is the fact he says that he certainly will not give back the funds of e-gold if he recovers it, I certainly wonder when that money became his and not his members.

allinvain

I consider my funds as good as lost. Do people realize how long it takes to trade your way to $600K (rough estimate of the total amount lost according to various forum posts)?

"That's right... if I pay you back and the other money by some miracle gets returned...IT'S MINE...."

this might clarify it for you.