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View Poll Results: Global Climate Change. Are we all in hot water? Or should we just chill?
It's real and human activity is the primary cause. We must take steps now to avoid this disaster. 11 40.74%
It's real but it's mostly from natural causes. There's nothing we can do to stop the inevitable. 9 33.33%
I'll wait for more evidence from one side or the other before I commit to a decision. 4 14.81%
The climate is just fine. Global warming is utter nonsense. 3 11.11%
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You should all watch this documentary, very informative, quite an eye opener actually and a can of worms opener too.

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Documentary Film - Google Video

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Hi maxvre,

This was actually a very good video. After watching yesterday, I did some more digging and found a minority consensus of intelligent scientists who believe there's no such thing as "global warming" per se, and the causes of these warming and cooling cycles are/were mainly due to solar activity: sun spots, a lack thereof, solar winds, cosmic rays, and how they all interact with each other and the Earth. The past data looks pretty convincing IMO. Don't think it's the end of the world.

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what about this one YouTube - Will Ferrel on George Bush on Global Warming



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Hmm...ok, Mother Earth as living sentient being. A bit of a stretch but, why not?

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I think regardless if anyone agrees global warming is real or not, we each have a responsibility to treat our planet with care.

One reads about the coral reefs dying ... about the ice caps melting which cause a chain effect all over the globe, which effect the currents which effect the climate lol ...

Perhaps certain species being endangered due to global warming (such as polar bears) or perhaps it's just part of the cycles, as has been historically noted ..

But again, regardless, I feel we each do effect our earth via all the emissions, pollution, littering, etc ... and if we babied our planet like we do our own homes, perhaps it would be a better and cleaner planet for all ..

Naive thinking? Perhaps .. but mankind does have an impact and that impact has become, IMO, increasingly obvious ..

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... i dont think is naive thinking to be aware of whats going on it just another point of view, not so tech but a lot of common sense.. i do prefer to take a frech breath, to swim in a clean ocean, to eat not poisoned food and so on .. anyway I found your comments fit in my beleives and in the light of where im for now

btw the old Veda writings, the Native American, the Abouriginals, the Maoris just to name a few, have their point of view and because we like to think of our selves as more developed in this time of age, its not any evidence we know the best ... or even not received the correct info... this in regards to during the Abbassid Caliphate in Baghdad, ca. 800 A.D., the 'scientists' knew the earth was round, and developed a very sophisticated technique to measure the diameter. Whether this was diffused to all the populace is another question. When Copernicus presented his obsevations .. yes you know ... it took 300 year to accept the fact the earth is round and there is still some beleive its flat .... The accademic world could be conservative to


Deep Ecology is maybee seen as a little naive at times about how we learn — but basically it is seems correct to me. Deep Ecologists put their fingers, indirectly, on what is wrong with much Environmental Education se for example Morning Earth -Introduction to Deep Ecology

There is anyway 2 polarity sides of this and all scientists likes to receive money for their continued research.
Probably politics and other economical interests to
There is so many perspectives in this area and specialized areas to, i think no human being can get it all who can say whats the whole truth ...

Maybe there is some of truth in both of the 2 polarized theories ....like the phenomena of colours can be explained in both the frequencies and the particle view, but we cant se/observe this at the same time

The Alice in Wonderland point reminds of something Nietzsche once said... Something along the lines of, "Did God make man, or did man make God?" ...Do you know?
I voted for the alternative not decided...but
Im influenced in my view by James Lovelock and his GAIA theory and find the hypothesis in this area interesting

some links for anyone interested to read more about it
James Lovelock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.ecolo.org/media/articles...ep-24-05-04.htm
http://comment.independent.co.uk/co...ticle338830.ece

James LOVELOCK's web site - the international homepage
Article Topic: environmental philosophy - Encyclopedia of Earth


Also find the Mythologi interesting and there is some touch to, to our wiew of the world Category:Mythographers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (he ... Joseph Campbell one of my favourite here, but thats in some other areas of our lifes)
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Default Re: Is Global Warming the Real Deal...

In my opinion, there really is a warming phenomenon happening. Evidence of this is all over the news, such as glaciers shrinking, lakes disappearing, and more powerful storms. The greenhouse effect is not a theory since we already know how gases like carbon dioxide and methane can warm the atmosphere. What's contentious are the theories on how other factors are affecting the environment and if it the Earth is capable of compensating for the offsets.

It's amazing how one explanation for a phenomenon like global warming can be given the benefit of doubt by another explanation that's just as believable. Here's something from TheNewsRoom on how melting of polar ice may be caused by dark snow instead of the effect of greenhouse gases:

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I'm writing from TheScienceDesk at TheNewsRoom and we currently have a group of users interested in global warming who have found useful content on the subject. TheNewsRoom would like to hear from global warming "warriors" who would want news they can use. Here's the email: jtowns@voxant.com.
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