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View Poll Results: Global Climate Change. Are we all in hot water? Or should we just chill?
It's real and human activity is the primary cause. We must take steps now to avoid this disaster. 11 40.74%
It's real but it's mostly from natural causes. There's nothing we can do to stop the inevitable. 9 33.33%
I'll wait for more evidence from one side or the other before I commit to a decision. 4 14.81%
The climate is just fine. Global warming is utter nonsense. 3 11.11%
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is Global Warming the Real Deal...

Hmm...ok, Mother Earth as living sentient being. A bit of a stretch but, why not?

The geology indicates with near certainty our planet has completely reversed poles so that north was south and south was north. This reversal has happened many times and some scientists seem to think we're due for another. Here are two somewhat different takes on this phenomenon.

Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip - The Observer

Solar wind to shield Earth during pole flip - New Scientist
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hmm...ok, Mother Earth as living sentient being. A bit of a stretch but, why not?

The geology indicates with near certainty our planet has completely reversed poles so that north was south and south was north. This reversal has happened many times and some scientists seem to think we're due for another. Here are two somewhat different takes on this phenomenon.

Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip - The Observer

Solar wind to shield Earth during pole flip - New Scientist
Pole shifting is a complicated complex matter. I don't think it happens without any kind of external force. In physics, if you take a piece of iron and magnetize it using a ceramic magnet or natural lode stone, it becomes magnetized. Take that same piece of iron and hit it hard and abruptly with another hard, but non magnetize object, say a hammer with a chrome finish. What happens to that piece of iron? Does it lose it's magnetic properties, or does it reverse poles? Now think large scale. Earth being bombarded with either a ginormous asteroid or comet. About the same effect, right? I'll let everyone contemplate on this one...

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Old 05-24-2007, 10:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is Global Warming the Real Deal...

I think regardless if anyone agrees global warming is real or not, we each have a responsibility to treat our planet with care.

One reads about the coral reefs dying ... about the ice caps melting which cause a chain effect all over the globe, which effect the currents which effect the climate lol ...

Perhaps certain species being endangered due to global warming (such as polar bears) or perhaps it's just part of the cycles, as has been historically noted ..

But again, regardless, I feel we each do effect our earth via all the emissions, pollution, littering, etc ... and if we babied our planet like we do our own homes, perhaps it would be a better and cleaner planet for all ..

Naive thinking? Perhaps .. but mankind does have an impact and that impact has become, IMO, increasingly obvious ..

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Default Re: Is Global Warming the Real Deal...

A short little read
Cato-at-liberty » Gore Outrage on Larry King: Some Inconvenient Facts

This is the type of thing that makes me have a problem with "people with a cause" More often than not they will exagerate and dramatize and pretend theories are actual proven facts.

I agree we should all do our part to take care of our planet but I do sometimes wonder about people. For an example, the third world countries that want to improve life for their citizens ( at least bring them out of the dark ages and into this century, with little things like electricity ) who do we think we are to try to tell them that they must use wind or solar only, to keep from damaging the global climate more. What a bunch of bull, "do as I say, not as I do".
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It is real deal and i suggest you read this article about it:

Global Warming - can Earth explode?
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Another concern besides global warming is the decline of bees. Perhaps this is no joke either and should be investigated further. Without their help, our food supply will dwindle.

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Cato-at-liberty » Gore Outrage on Larry King: Some Inconvenient Facts

This is the type of thing that makes me have a problem with "people with a cause" More often than not they will exagerate and dramatize and pretend theories are actual proven facts.

I agree we should all do our part to take care of our planet but I do sometimes wonder about people. For an example, the third world countries that want to improve life for their citizens ( at least bring them out of the dark ages and into this century, with little things like electricity ) who do we think we are to try to tell them that they must use wind or solar only, to keep from damaging the global climate more. What a bunch of bull, "do as I say, not as I do".
There are two sides to this story but only one of them is getting attention in the main stream media. It almost seems as if any evidence contrary to the conventional wisdom is being suppressed or simply ignored. It makes me wonder why.
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It is utter nonsense. It is litterally a scam... educate yourself with the well known science and stay away from general written propaganda and of course the likes of Gore which anybody that takes his word on anything is just sad.

It is a cyclical natural event over time.

This is of course not that we should not practice healthy measures in living in world around us - but it not come from the fear being perpetrated.
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Hi everyone

You should all watch this documentary, very informative, quite an eye opener actually and a can of worms opener too.

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Documentary Film - Google Video

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Here in Australia, the media treat anyone who dares to question anthropogenic global warming as akin to a holocaust denyer. The level of hate and abuse spewed at people who suggest that there maybe another point of view is frightening. My own research suggests there is no scientific consensus on the matter but the extremist socialist loonies have latched onto this as another way to attack capitalism.

I'm looking forward to seeing "swindle" which will be shown here next month. It was very nearly suppressed.

One undeniable fact is that despite the wild predictions of sea levels rising a 100 meters, no one has yet been able to detect a single millimeter of sea level change. The net amount of ice in antarctica hasn't actually changed with some parts increasing and other decreasing. I really can't see any evidence of anything unusual occuring. If you examine ice cores going back millions of years it suggests nothing strange is going on now.

However if you are a scientist desperate for funding and tenure then get on the climate change gravy train! Make wild predictions that you never have to prove and watch the money come poring in. Twist the facts and massage statistics to show whatever you want. Dare to question it all and you risk losing tenure.

The evidence against anthropogenic climate change is pretty overwhelming actually for anyone who listens to both sides.
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