Here's my post from GT:
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Originally Posted by peterg
Conciliator, you gave PeterB an ultimatum and I assume you have been paid.
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The "ultimatum" was a deadline that PeterB came up with himself. He failed to meet that deadline (which was the end of October). I've been patient and have put up with his BS for months.
Now, we have this interesting sequence of events:
1) At the beginning of October: I contact PeterG through PM and suggest that we combine our information and publish PeterB's personal details. He refuses this offer saying "I won't be giving it out until I have made my own decision that I'm not going to get paid..."
2) For the last 6 weeks: PeterB claims the wire transfer to e-bullion was lost or misrouted. It's one lame excuse after another. On Dec 5th I post in this thread about PeterB's claims. I say I think that he's "stalling and lying through his teeth". It's obvious no one has been paid, including myself.
3) Dec 20th 5:20AM: I post about how ridiculous PeterG is for protecting PeterB's personal details. To say that it shows integrity is complete garbage. At this point, I still think we should combine the information we have on PeterB and publish it. I'm willing to do so, however PeterG's post is an alarming indication that he never intends to disclose PeterB's information. This is very suspicious in and of itself.
4) Dec 20th 9:12PM: PeterB emails me out of the blue and says "Finally, it has arrived, please confirm your e-bullion number, I just want to make sure." I confirm my e-bullion number.
5) Dec 20th 11:52PM: I receive a refund payment from PeterB for about 9% of the total amount I'm owed. As we know, PeterB last said that he'd pay the larger investors first. He told me for months that he would be sending half of my refund by the end of October. That never happened. He then changed his word and told me that he would be sending about a third of the amount I'm owed. His reasoning was so that there would be money to make refunds to other investors. What I received, though, was a little over 9% (and I didn't get 5% with the first round of refunds).
6) Dec 22: PeterG posts "I assume you have been paid". But this assumption makes no sense or I wouldn't have been ranting about PeterB's lack of action in item 2 or about the need to expose him in item 3. I've posted regarding my dialog with Peter and about how he hadn't paid me a dime. The fact that PeterG is saying anything about me getting paid (which just happened yesterday) makes me think that he and PeterB are either the same person or, at the very least, that they're colluding with each other. Why else would PeterG assume that I've been paid and post this assumption when all the evidence from all the posts, both from myself and others, suggest that no one has been paid? In light of my small refund, I expected that others had been paid as well, but from what I now see, no one has reported receiving anything.
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Originally Posted by peterg
In the event that you were able to communicate with him, I must also assume that YOU have details on PeterB which you have not released to the other forum members.
Don't call the kettle black....
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I do have details on PeterB that have not been released to other forum members. You know this, because I contacted you months ago about combining our information, publishing PeterB's personal details, and seeking justice. You turned this down.
I think the charge of hypocrisy is a pathetic red herring. That's a logical fallacy used to change the topic and divert discussion on the issue. Why don't you actually address my post PeterG? Why don't you tell us how protecting a scammer shows integrity? That's a terrible excuse for why you're withholding PeterB's personal details.
I'm no hypocrite though. Unlike you, I'm very eager to publish PeterB's personal details. I don't think there's any integrity in protecting him. I contacted you months ago to try to get your help on this, but you declined. You have important copies of documents, whereas I don't. Either way, I need to put the information together from my P.I. and take the time to organize it and post it. I was planning to publish PeterB's personal details two weekends ago. I emailed PeterB informing him that I was going to do this, since nothing had been done in months. Unfortunately, I've been very busy and need to find the time.
Now that PeterB has actually made refunds (or at least one to me) should make us question whether we should withhold his personal details, since he's making progress. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like anyone is reporting getting paid. I'm also very unhappy with the small amount of my refund. It's unacceptable. If you're willing, let's publish PeterB's personal details and pursue legal action. If you're not willing, then why not? (and spare us the "integrity" crap).
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