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Old 08-10-2007, 02:44 AM   #511 (permalink)
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I wont be invited I'm sure. lol
Oh Jude, I think since you're one of his largest investors you'll be given the red carpet treatment You'll have margaritas, hot women, you name it!
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:54 AM   #512 (permalink)
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No more response from him even through email. Sad. Now what should we do?
If that's a serious question I'll give some serious answers:

1. Release his contact details so everyone has the option of taking legal action.

2. Take some legal action yourself.

Clearly he is ignoring you and even more clearly he is a simple scammer. The evidence is overwhelming.

I have no doubt at some stage some "catastrophic event" will occur that of course won't be his fault and he will spend time gazing into the distance reflecting blah blah blah but the end result will be "sorry, all the money is gone including mine so please sympathise with me" And then later he will start a new scam and do it all over again with the sheep lining up to give away their money again. He will keep doing this until someone does something. Of course legal action can be expensive and I'm not interesting in going down that path but it would be delightful if someone who has lost thousands is prepared to take him on. Should be a fairly easy straightforward case I think.
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:38 AM   #513 (permalink)
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If that's a serious question I'll give some serious answers:

1. Release his contact details so everyone has the option of taking legal action.

2. Take some legal action yourself.

Clearly he is ignoring you and even more clearly he is a simple scammer. The evidence is overwhelming.

I have no doubt at some stage some "catastrophic event" will occur that of course won't be his fault and he will spend time gazing into the distance reflecting blah blah blah but the end result will be "sorry, all the money is gone including mine so please sympathise with me" And then later he will start a new scam and do it all over again with the sheep lining up to give away their money again. He will keep doing this until someone does something. Of course legal action can be expensive and I'm not interesting in going down that path but it would be delightful if someone who has lost thousands is prepared to take him on. Should be a fairly easy straightforward case I think.
lol what Peter needs is a good spanking..naughty naughty boy.

On a more serious note I don't think legal route will be very fruitful and the cost/benefit is just not worth it. Someone who say put in $10,000 is most likely going to have to spend $5,000 just in legal fees. Don't forget people that he's in South Africa and this ads an extra level of complexity to the whole mess. Still though I for one would be interested in getting his personal info so I can send some goons after him
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:00 AM   #514 (permalink)
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lol what Peter needs is a good spanking..naughty naughty boy.

On a more serious note I don't think legal route will be very fruitful and the cost/benefit is just not worth it. Someone who say put in $10,000 is most likely going to have to spend $5,000 just in legal fees. Don't forget people that he's in South Africa and this ads an extra level of complexity to the whole mess. Still though I for one would be interested in getting his personal info so I can send some goons after him
Just like what PeterB did with Kalter, he'll welcome your goons into his house with an open arm ... He'll probably let your goons access all of his personal account just like how he granted access to a stranger Kalter
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:27 AM   #515 (permalink)
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Just like what PeterB did with Kalter, he'll welcome your goons into his house with an open arm ... He'll probably let your goons access all of his personal account just like how he granted access to a stranger Kalter
You know its even funnier when I read it a second time hahahaha... that PeterB what a maroon...
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:50 AM   #516 (permalink)
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yah that whole thing with Kalter was most likely a ruse.
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:53 AM   #517 (permalink)
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yah that whole thing with Kalter was most likely a ruse.
you think?

Even the PeterB ass kissers at some point have to take a good hard look at that story and say WTF??

Let me see if I have the story correct.... Kalter who lives at least somewhere near PB in South Africa has never met him previously and both attest to this fact. But kalter manages to find his personal home address, pops over rings the bell and says hey dude, I'm an investor in your HYIP, you know the one that just got hacked and all our money is lost. Mind if I come in and we can bond? PB says hey sounds like a great idea, I'm sure you're not mad in anyway and although I've never met or talked to you before why don't you have a pint and I'll fire up my puter so you can see my Egold account... well the one I'm willing to show you... because well gosh I'm a super nice guy and although my Egold account proves NOTHING except the fact that money left the account it seems like good enough proof don't ya think? Ok I know I could show you those nasty trading statements I mean as you're here and all, but why bother with that bit of business when we just continue our hetrosexual bonding..... oh and btw if you wouldn't mind posting a somewhat direct and somewhat veiled reference to our meeting and how we have never met prior to today (nudge nudge, wink wink) on GoldenTalk that would be just fab... don't forget to mention how you saw all the proof you needed to prove we were hacked.. never mind if I actually made the money I claimed, we don't want to confuse the shee...errrr investors....

What's not credible about that story?
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On a more serious note I don't think legal route will be very fruitful and the cost/benefit is just not worth it. Someone who say put in $10,000 is most likely going to have to spend $5,000 just in legal fees. Don't forget people that he's in South Africa and this ads an extra level of complexity to the whole mess. Still though I for one would be interested in getting his personal info so I can send some goons after him
There is expense, yes, but I think you fail to appreciate how many people are involved in this and how furious a lot of them are. All it takes is one large investor with a lot of time on his hands and a lot of resources at his disposal to make sure that justice is had. For example, I've taken pre-emptive measures by hiring a private investigator. I already have lots of information on our friends Peter and Julie there in Amanzimtoti. Peter is smart enough to know that he needs to repay the lenders for the "loss" or else the lenders are going to repay him... His personal details and many other details are not unknown. He'd be extremely foolish to run with the money rather than return it. I'm sure he realizes this.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:02 PM   #519 (permalink)
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There is expense, yes, but I think you fail to appreciate how many people are involved in this and how furious a lot of them are. All it takes is one large investor with a lot of time on his hands and a lot of resources at his disposal to make sure that justice is had. For example, I've taken pre-emptive measures by hiring a private investigator. I already have lots of information on our friends Peter and Julie there in Amanzimtoti. Peter is smart enough to know that he needs to repay the lenders for the "loss" or else the lenders are going to repay him... His personal details and many other details are not unknown. He'd be extremely foolish to run with the money rather than return it. I'm sure he realizes this.
I agree, I'm not involved at all financially but I have one friend that was for sure and another I think was involved although he's not online at this point to confirm, away on a sabbatical. But the one involved for sure is quite interested in moving forward with legal action as I've mentioned here in the past. He has contacted a couple of lawyers locally (to him) to check into the laws and legal system in SA to see what he can do from here...
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:45 PM   #520 (permalink)
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There is expense, yes, but I think you fail to appreciate how many people are involved in this and how furious a lot of them are. All it takes is one large investor with a lot of time on his hands and a lot of resources at his disposal to make sure that justice is had. For example, I've taken pre-emptive measures by hiring a private investigator. I already have lots of information on our friends Peter and Julie there in Amanzimtoti. Peter is smart enough to know that he needs to repay the lenders for the "loss" or else the lenders are going to repay him... His personal details and many other details are not unknown. He'd be extremely foolish to run with the money rather than return it. I'm sure he realizes this.
Yes no doubt he does. And surely he realizes that the potential exists that one of his investors decides to "take the law into his own hands" and that could turn into a nasty situation - for Peter that is. I am sure that he realizes that his attempt to make Club FX-Trader as "safe" as possible by releasing his private info is really a double-edged sword. So, now the ball is in Peter's court and he now has to prove to us that he is really the great trader he purports to be.

Anyways, I wish those of you who decided to go the legal route (I commend you for it first of all) best of luck and I hope that justice is served - one way or another if you know what I mean.
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