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PeterB has been given more than enough time to provide proof for all the claims he has made (as enumerated by conciliator).

At this point, the presumption of innocence should no longer apply.

The big question now is: What do we do, given that premise?

Jude has asked for suggestions. Maybe that's what we should focus on right now: brainstorming for the best possible solution out of the mess that PeterB created.

Conciliator

I thought Jude had contacted Michael J. Bruzzese to start legal proceedings from a different direction. He's talked about his "solicitor", but I'm not sure who he's referring to.

Perhaps Jude could fill us in on what he's done so far and what needs to be done if we're to proceed.

Jude

Hey Conciliator,

Yes I've contacted Michael. But we're discussing whether these moves are viable since it has been over a period of time that we have delayed and the funds could have circulated out of E-gold already.

I'm still waiting for his reply on a few suggestions I've sent him.

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Traderj

Interesting.. as I was NOT a member of this forum at the time that this program was active.. and I have been banned from GT I'm curious how is it you read or didn't read any posts from me there? For the record I DID NOT invest money there as already stated.

BTW nice first post sock puppet...

Well I would find it amazing that he has provided read only access to his trading accounts, or access verbally to his broker AND access to his Egold account and the people that had that access have chosen to stay quiet and not say anything.... I think that speaks pretty clearly about his lack of action on the obvious and easy fixes to the current questioning of his honesty.

Of course his lawyer would have advised him to NOT talk about things in public yet that didn't stop him, but by the same token any lawyer I've ever talked to or dealt with would always say anybody that asks, refer them to my office...

See above lack of credible proof related to the "hacking"

You must be kidding right? If was a trading for a pooled fund (which I do btw) and I had my accounts hacked, well ummm not sure how that would happen as I don't know any futures brokers that accept Egold, but let's assume shall we.

If I went to fire up my platform one morning and I was hacked and all the money was gone. I would be on the phone to my lawyer and have him on the broker and money transfer facility used to freeze everything in sight until we could sort out what happened..

My second step would be a mass email to all pool members telling them exactly what happened, when it happened and then I would include read only access to my trading account and currency account as they would be wiped out anyway and if they were indeed hacked it's not like I'd ever use them again... I would also include my lawyers contact info so people could email his staff to confirm my story.

But hey, that's just me...

You are missing one vital part.. when did he attempt to do the right thing? His first email talked about taking a break on the beach. He didn't entertain the idea about a lawyer until a number of people asked him about. He still has yet to give anyone PROOF.. not screenshots, but broker/account access to prove his trading history.. or access to his Egold account.. so what did he do??

Sorry there champ but I just don't see what he did that was so special other than ignore anybody that wasn't puckered up behind him...

So ummmm you're saying we all are scammers and therefore we should not be calling PB one??

ybop

It's PeterB your lawyer should be going after. The fact that he refuses to show ANY evidence to back up his claims of a hacker together with the obviously dodgy screenshots are suspicious in the extreme.

The onus of proof lays with PeterB. There have been numerous suggestions that he could so easily have done but has failed to do so. I'm not sure why you are even bothering your lawyer with the hacker scenario when the most likely culprit is PeterB himself. If PeterB's contact details are available then it should be simplicity itself for your lawyer to send PeterB a "please explain" letter which gives PeterB the opportunity to provide some solid proof of his claims failing which he can be sued for theft.

I'm not stating that PeterB is guilty but the currently available evidence does point that way.

Jude

I'll see if Michael would take this case and furnish him with the details with your suggestion.

On the other hand, I'll contact PeterB again on his solicitor's contacts; though I highly doubt he'll be giving me any information on that either.

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ziedariana

I must agree with Ybop, Jude.Your contacting MJB should not be about investigating the hacking of Peter's account. It should be about Peter claiming the money was lost. It is PeterB's job to hire a lawyer to investigate the hacking. If you(we) engage a lawyer it sould be to investigate Peter as if he was the scammer. In other words MJB would not work for Peter, but versus.

IMHO.

Maybe it's me, but I always thought Jude was a lady.

Jude

I would think MJB versus Peter would be nice. I'm a guy

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gaby

In my opinion going through e-gold will have the same effect.
If MJB can get a court order to track the money in e-gold and e-gold complies then whether the money were taken by peterB or a hacker is irrelevant.
The end result is that we would get the man that got the money.

The actual legal action against the 'thief' (whoever that maybe) will begin after finding him.. And if the money have not yet been out-exchanged from e-gold they can easily be recovered.

OTOH, it seems like a good idea for MJB to officially contact PeterB and ask for his lawyer contacts. (Peter's response to this would be very interesting.)

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ziedariana

Sorry, it must have been the blog entries "writing style" made by the prolific sharon, as I read most of them assuming they are made by you. I should pay as much attention to the poster as I do to the posts.