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Originally Posted by opie999
LOL! It'll be very interesting to see how long this one lasts. Wagers anyone?
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Not a bad idea lol - let's start a wager site, list a load of programs on it, and take maximum of $10 bets per person on how long each site will last.

I'm actually thinking of doing it now you've mentioned it - more fun than actually participating in the damn things! I can see it now - stock exchange for hyips lol
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Originally Posted by Dolphin
I can only speak from my experience and my experience with Andy personally, was civil and respectful.
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Unfortunately, those who are "good" at being dis-honest are also very good at behaving in the way you describe.

It's what makes the game so difficult (or interesting depending on your point of view) - no single factor, or even combination of factors means anything anymore. The smart scammer these days (and in the past too if we're honest) has always had all the bases covered - buy expensive hosting, produce a good website design, look to always push the fact you're going to be adding outside programs to the "network", seem friendly and helpful to members. All run of the mill stuff.