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itrade4u is definitely a scam, after I read all those threads in all those forums.
I just wonder why did they bother sending all those emails when the site was down? Why didn't they just disappear?

As for Patrick Johnson, I remember that HYIP from 2-3 years ago (the time when I was investing in HYIPs quite a bit, until famous PIPS collapsed). I remember that you could login and see your balance growing every minute in lots of decimals, like $1.0000123

Are you saying that same Patrick Johnson reappeared later? Amazing! Imagine their nerve!
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:19 PM   #35 (permalink)
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For all those scammed by ITrade4u, there is a post in this thread with valuable information about who was receiving the wire transfers, it is a start to go against them.
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The itrade4u scammer has left couple of posts on talkforum, under the name iscam4u (!):

http://www.talkgold.com/forum//showt...147934&page=58

Is it him? I believe it is...
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The itrade4u scammer has left couple of posts on talkforum, under the name iscam4u (!):

Itrade4u - Itrade4u.biz - Page 58 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

Is it him? I believe it is...
And I believe his play finished:

Dear investors-victims of itrade4u.biz!

I'm happy to announce that our group of investors was able to get back a part of money you lost in itrade4u form its admin, and we're going to return this money to investors! The sum is big BUT it's enough for only partial returns.
Now we are starting to gather the information about investors who have lost their money here. WE HAVE THE CLIENTS DATABASE but we need additional info from you.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, SO WE'LL WAIT THE REQUESTS FROM INVESTROS FOR A MONTH TILL AUGUST 15!

After this date we'll start to distribute the money among people who contacted us.
Money will be sent to people in corresponding shares (regarding total sum we have).

SO, WE NEED THE FOLLOWING FROM YOU IN YOUR REQUESTS:

1. LOGIN used
2. E-GOLD or E-BULLION account number YOU INVESTED FROM, or BANK DETAILS to send money to.
3. TOTAL AMOUNT INVESTED and WITHDRAWN, if you payed through bank, SEND A COPY OF PAYMENT ORDER

NOTE: ANY attempt to cheat us will make you to receive exactly NOTHING and make others more rich.

Now about payments:

Amounts under $1000 will be send to e-gold/e-bullion accounts OR bank accounts. You are to decide.
NOTE: IN CASE OF E-GOLD/E-BULLION TRANSFERS, THERE MAY BE A DELAY UP TO 3 TO 4 MONTHS.

ALL amounts greater than $1000 will be paid via BANK TRANSFER. NO CHOICE.

NOTE: Bank transfers cost $50 per transfer (bank fee).

PLEASE SEND YOUR REQUESTS TO THIS E-MAIL: recoverman @ gmail.com

AGAIN: WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU REQUESTS UNTIL AUGUST 15!
AFTER THIS DATE WE'RE CALCULATING THE SHARES AND STARTING TO PAY.

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I am the person who recovered a large amount of money from one of the scammers from what we can call "David's network". This guy is living in Western Europe and was identified after investigations in some banks of Belgium where "Liz" had opened account. I will not discuss HOW I could identify exactly the person, nor which ways I had to use to recover a part of money that was scammed.

With the money I could get some files, part of the database of investors. This file contains the login, the account number, the amount invested and the amount paid back.

The amount of money I have got is HIGH, a few hundred of thousands USD. I have now the choice between 2 ways: Or I keep all for me, or I try to payback LIZ victims.

As there is no EMAIL ADDRESS in the file I have got, I can not contact the investors. I will for sure not just send any money to the account numbers for various reasons, including that the amount I have recovered, even HIGH, is a small part of all the money that has been "invested".

That is why I decided that people who want to get back their money MUST contact me and tell me their LOGIN, account number, invested amount and paid amounts. People who shut up do not care about their money, so I will not send anything to them.

I read that some stupid guys are afraid to send these details. Afraid of what? They weren't afraid to send money to scammers, and are afraid to send a LOGIN and account number? Ok, don't send anything, your money will be lost for you. Period.

WHY did I decide that there will be 3 or 4 months delay for payments by gold or bullion? Just because I can not send a wire to buy for example $500.000 gold or bullion!!!! WHICH exchanger can handle this transaction? I will buy gold and bullion little by little, and that will TAKE TIME! People who are not able to understand that can begin to forget their money, no need to contact me to ask anything.

WHY did I say that payments above $1000 will be sent ONLY by bank? For the same reason than above! Less I will have to buy gold/bullion, better it will be. People who have a balance over $1000 and don't want receive a bank wire: NO NEED TO CONTACT ME, just forget your money.

I am tired of reading such BS on TG and other forum! I took physical risks to recover the money, I am not ready to read or hear BS from asholes who just sit on their chair and cry.

In other words: OR you accept my rules, OR you forget your money.

For those who accept my rules, SEND your login, account number (if invested by bank, just tell that you invested by bank), amount invested, amount paid. ANY ERROR will make your record canceled, and you will NOT receive one cent. Nothing. So calculate correctly!

I will calculate everybody's BALANCE.

I will ADD all balances that will make the TOTAL TO PAY.

At August 16th, all will be terminated: I will pay everybody like this:

SUMTOPAY = [BALANCE / TOTALTOPAY] * [SUMRECOVERED]

Of course SUMTOPAY will be LESS than what you have really lost! Why? because I recovered ONLY a PART of the total amount that David's team scammed!!!

People whose SUMTOPAY is $1000 and more will be contacted by email and they will have to send me bank details. If they don't want, their money will go directly to MY POCKET. Period.
People who send their bank details will receive a wire from an offshore bank account, of SUMTOPAY minus $50 (bank fee).

People whose SUMTOPAY is less than $1000 will BEGIN TO BE PAID in gold or bullion, to their account that is in the file. The biggest amounts will be paid the first. People who want CHANGE their account number can already forget their money, that will go directly to MY POCKET.

I am working with a friend that posted the first message on 2 or 3 forum. Send the details to him. On my side, NO NEED to ask sepcial conditions for ANY reasons! MOST of you were ready to forget their money, so now there is the choice: Or completely forget it, or accept my rules. NO third way.
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And I believe his play finished:

Dear investors-victims of itrade4u.biz!

I'm happy to announce that our group of investors was able to get back a part of money you lost in itrade4u form its admin, and we're going to return this money to investors! The sum is big BUT it's enough for only partial returns.
Now we are starting to gather the information about investors who have lost their money here. WE HAVE THE CLIENTS DATABASE but we need additional info from you.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, SO WE'LL WAIT THE REQUESTS FROM INVESTROS FOR A MONTH TILL AUGUST 15!

After this date we'll start to distribute the money among people who contacted us.
Money will be sent to people in corresponding shares (regarding total sum we have).

SO, WE NEED THE FOLLOWING FROM YOU IN YOUR REQUESTS:

1. LOGIN used
2. E-GOLD or E-BULLION account number YOU INVESTED FROM, or BANK DETAILS to send money to.
3. TOTAL AMOUNT INVESTED and WITHDRAWN, if you payed through bank, SEND A COPY OF PAYMENT ORDER

NOTE: ANY attempt to cheat us will make you to receive exactly NOTHING and make others more rich.

Now about payments:

Amounts under $1000 will be send to e-gold/e-bullion accounts OR bank accounts. You are to decide.
NOTE: IN CASE OF E-GOLD/E-BULLION TRANSFERS, THERE MAY BE A DELAY UP TO 3 TO 4 MONTHS.

ALL amounts greater than $1000 will be paid via BANK TRANSFER. NO CHOICE.

NOTE: Bank transfers cost $50 per transfer (bank fee).

PLEASE SEND YOUR REQUESTS TO THIS E-MAIL: recoverman @ gmail.com

AGAIN: WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU REQUESTS UNTIL AUGUST 15!
AFTER THIS DATE WE'RE CALCULATING THE SHARES AND STARTING TO PAY.

***********
I am the person who recovered a large amount of money from one of the scammers from what we can call "David's network". This guy is living in Western Europe and was identified after investigations in some banks of Belgium where "Liz" had opened account. I will not discuss HOW I could identify exactly the person, nor which ways I had to use to recover a part of money that was scammed.

With the money I could get some files, part of the database of investors. This file contains the login, the account number, the amount invested and the amount paid back.

The amount of money I have got is HIGH, a few hundred of thousands USD. I have now the choice between 2 ways: Or I keep all for me, or I try to payback LIZ victims.

As there is no EMAIL ADDRESS in the file I have got, I can not contact the investors. I will for sure not just send any money to the account numbers for various reasons, including that the amount I have recovered, even HIGH, is a small part of all the money that has been "invested".

That is why I decided that people who want to get back their money MUST contact me and tell me their LOGIN, account number, invested amount and paid amounts. People who shut up do not care about their money, so I will not send anything to them.

I read that some stupid guys are afraid to send these details. Afraid of what? They weren't afraid to send money to scammers, and are afraid to send a LOGIN and account number? Ok, don't send anything, your money will be lost for you. Period.

WHY did I decide that there will be 3 or 4 months delay for payments by gold or bullion? Just because I can not send a wire to buy for example $500.000 gold or bullion!!!! WHICH exchanger can handle this transaction? I will buy gold and bullion little by little, and that will TAKE TIME! People who are not able to understand that can begin to forget their money, no need to contact me to ask anything.

WHY did I say that payments above $1000 will be sent ONLY by bank? For the same reason than above! Less I will have to buy gold/bullion, better it will be. People who have a balance over $1000 and don't want receive a bank wire: NO NEED TO CONTACT ME, just forget your money.

I am tired of reading such BS on TG and other forum! I took physical risks to recover the money, I am not ready to read or hear BS from asholes who just sit on their chair and cry.

In other words: OR you accept my rules, OR you forget your money.

For those who accept my rules, SEND your login, account number (if invested by bank, just tell that you invested by bank), amount invested, amount paid. ANY ERROR will make your record canceled, and you will NOT receive one cent. Nothing. So calculate correctly!

I will calculate everybody's BALANCE.

I will ADD all balances that will make the TOTAL TO PAY.

At August 16th, all will be terminated: I will pay everybody like this:

SUMTOPAY = [BALANCE / TOTALTOPAY] * [SUMRECOVERED]

Of course SUMTOPAY will be LESS than what you have really lost! Why? because I recovered ONLY a PART of the total amount that David's team scammed!!!

People whose SUMTOPAY is $1000 and more will be contacted by email and they will have to send me bank details. If they don't want, their money will go directly to MY POCKET. Period.
People who send their bank details will receive a wire from an offshore bank account, of SUMTOPAY minus $50 (bank fee).

People whose SUMTOPAY is less than $1000 will BEGIN TO BE PAID in gold or bullion, to their account that is in the file. The biggest amounts will be paid the first. People who want CHANGE their account number can already forget their money, that will go directly to MY POCKET.

I am working with a friend that posted the first message on 2 or 3 forum. Send the details to him. On my side, NO NEED to ask sepcial conditions for ANY reasons! MOST of you were ready to forget their money, so now there is the choice: Or completely forget it, or accept my rules. NO third way.


Well, in order to get E-Gold to Freeze the account and release it back to a trustee, you will need to be a lawyer, what is the Bar Number of the lawyer? If no Bar number, I Guarantee this is a scam!

Don’t send a nickel, no email, no Info, or anything else! They are building a list to spam to of HYIP Spenders (People who buy into the HYIP Crap) to market the next BS program to!
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Well, in order to get E-Gold to Freeze the account and release it back to a trustee, you will need to be a lawyer, what is the Bar Number of the lawyer? If no Bar number, I Guarantee this is a scam!

Don’t send a nickel, no email, no Info, or anything else! They are building a list to spam to of HYIP Spenders (People who buy into the HYIP Crap) to market the next BS program to!
Itrade4u - Itrade4u.biz - Page 61 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

1. We have data base but not in full, especially we have no info about payments via bank wires.
2. we have no emails, just acc. names, so we can't contact you directly.
3. it's not easy to transfer big sum at once through e-currency. It must be dpne carefully, so we will made e-gold transfers part by part, so they will need much time. 3-4 month is approximate. There is no such problem with banks.
4. Beacuse it's more convenent for us. Read previous paragraph, please. Money are in a bank so it's more easy to use bank transfers. But for little sums under 1000 we'll deal with e-currency.

About hacking e-gold accounts if some one want to do this he don't need their number and transactions history Just choose any and hack.

So, don't waste your time. Inform all investors of itrade4u you know.
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1. We have data base but not in full, especially we have no info about payments via bank wires.
2. we have no emails, just acc. names, so we can't contact you directly.
3. it's not easy to transfer big sum at once through e-currency. It must be dpne carefully, so we will made e-gold transfers part by part, so they will need much time. 3-4 month is approximate. There is no such problem with banks.
4. Beacuse it's more convenent for us. Read previous paragraph, please. Money are in a bank so it's more easy to use bank transfers. But for little sums under 1000 we'll deal with e-currency.

About hacking e-gold accounts if some one want to do this he don't need their number and transactions history Just choose any and hack.

So, don't waste your time. Inform all investors of itrade4u you know.
Still no Bar Number? Ok What about a Docket Number of the Judgment they won in order for E-Gold to release the funds?
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