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Default Being Right and Making Money Are Not Equivalent

I have seen this article in a number of places and I have no idea who the original author is, I do know it's the single most important that life changing thing I've read and understanding NOT just reading it turned me into a full time profitable trader I wish I could credit the author. If anybody knows who it is please do let me know.. thanks.


At investment conferences, the hottest speakers are those who
provide information about high probability entry techniques. If you
say, "Trade with the odds on your side" and show someone a technique
that is right 75% of the time, you'll get a large audience. Yet most
techniques of this nature usually have big losers and may not even
have a positive expectancy. Nevertheless, being right 75% of the
time is all is takes to get people to trade them.

How important is it for you to be right? Let's say I could guarantee
that you would make money by the end of the year—lots of money—but
you would probably lose money on 90% of your trades. Would you like
that? Could you tolerate that? Would you accept that? Most people
would probably answer "no" to all three questions. And if that is
you, you probably are denying yourself the opportunity to make money
simply because being right is more important than making money.

Some of you might be saying, "How could you be wrong 90% of the time
and still make money?" The solution goes back to the golden rule of
trading, "Cut your losses short and let your profits run." Let's say
that 90% of your trades lose money and that your average loss is
$100. On the year you make 100 trades so you end up losing 90 of
them for a total loss of $9,000. However, let's also say that your
average winning trade is a big R-multiple. It's an R-multiple of 100
or a $10,000 winner. You have ten of those in a year, so you end up
making $100,000 on your winning trades. If you subtract your
winnings from your losses, you'd end up with a profit of $91,000 at
the end of the year. You make $91,000, yet 90% of your trades are
losers.

My guess is that 99% of the trading population could not trade a
system that would produce those kind of results. The reason is
because they don't get to be right enough. They have too many losing
streaks. They have losing streaks that are longer than five in a
row. Most people cannot tolerate long losing streaks. When they
occur, they totally abandon what they are doing. In such a system
you could easily have 25 consecutive losses. At that point you
become certain that your system is broken, and you try something
else.

Let's look at the opposite end. Suppose you got to be right 90% of
the time. Suppose your average win was $100 and that your average
loss was $2,000. This means that you'd have a total of $9,000 in
winnings and $20,000 in losses. You would lose $11,000. Would people
trade that system? Yes, they would. They would probably trade it for
a number of years until they went bankrupt. Why? Because they get to
be right most of the time and that is very rewarding.

You might be saying, but how could people possibly tolerate losses
of $11,000 after 100 trades? It is easy; they turn the losing trade
into a long-term investment in their mind and say, "it's only a
paper loss." For example, I've had workshop attendees who were
probably way above average in terms of sophistication. However, I
asked them to raise their hands if they had an investment in their
portfolio that was only worth 50% or less of what they paid for it.
Eleven people raised their hands—over a fourth of the class. And my
guess is that among the overall population of investors, most people
are sitting on a number of big losers, hoping they will come back.
Why? Because they cannot stand to be wrong on an investment and they
are waiting to be right on those losing trades.

What is the cost of having losing investments in your portfolio?
It's major. First, you are using valuable capital up with
nonproductive investments. Second, you are missing many good
opportunities.

Why Being Right Seems So Important
There are two primary reasons why we focus on being right. First, we
are conditioned to be right by the school system. Second, everyone
in the trading industry gives people what they want—ways to be right—
which tends to perpetuate the myth. Let's take a closer look at
these two reasons.

First, we are conditioned by the school system to the importance of
being right. In school you are taught that there are right answers
and wrong answers. What is a right answer? If you learned how to
survive in the system, you learned that a "right" answer is whatever
the teacher wanted.

Your performance is measured periodically through tests in which you
are asked to pick the right answer. If you cannot get more than 70%
right on the test, you are labeled a failure and ostracized. Your
humiliation might even be in public in front on all your friends.
And if your humiliation isn't public, it certainly is semipublic.
Your "poor" performance goes home in the form of a grade with a
comment that "Johnny is a little slow or Johnny is bright, but he
just doesn't try." Usually, at this point, the most important people
in your young life get involved—your parents.

Even if you understand the system and work hard to know the right
answers, you still might be taught that your performance is not good
enough. It usually takes 94% right to get an excellent grade. But
how many children go home and show their 94% test to dad only to get
the response, "Why didn't you get 100%?"

Thus, it is no wonder that traders want to be right all the time.
And being right usually costs them dearly in terms of profits.
Whether you've been through 20 years of schooling and have a
graduate degree or less than 10 years of schooling, you still have
the same conditioning about being right.

The second reason people want to be right is that service providers
for traders and investors feed the bias to be right. First, software
vendors tend to provide systems that can be highly optimized. Once
you've optimized your trading, you can lay a line over the prices
and see exactly where you should have bought and sold. It seems
obvious. However, the same optimized system does very poorly when
applied to the real world.

The Solution: Expectancy
What you must do now that you are trying to survive in the real
world is learn about expectancy. My book, Trade Your Way to
Financial Freedom is one of the best sources I know that covers this
topic. By definition expectancy is how much you can expect to make,
on the average, over many trades. Expectancy is best stated in terms
of how much you can make per dollar that you risk. I cover this
important topic as well as detailed instructions on how to calculate
expectancy. My objective is to show you how to incorporate
expectancy into a successful, profit generating trading system.
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The last line seems to cover who's the author. He wrote 'Trade your Way to Financial Freedom'. Any idea who's this? lol
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I wish I could credit the author. If anybody knows who it is please do let me know.. thanks.


My book, Trade Your Way to
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Dr. Van K Tharp wrote the book
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Anyone read the book?
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Anyone read the book?
Heh heh.. sorry that's my little trick.. I know who it is I have the book and have it read it along with a couple of others he's written, I always post that when I put it up as the info to see who the author is as you saw is in the last paragraph.. it shows me who read all the way through and who didn't hehe...

Yes Dr Tharp is a genius in my mind. Some of his ideas are way out there and piss off the normal trading line of thought.. but I think he's totally right on in darn near everything I've ever read of his.
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I consider this book as THE first one that any new trader (and old trader) should read.

And after reading it a few times, do their trading plan

And only after that, start looking for other books

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