oneworldmarket

Anita, thanks for your help. Yes, to ALL the others we only have Media.

NO PROOF YET. My sponsor is well connected, and Anita I do believe we

have the same one. You can glady email me at my email address, because

this forum is not the Private Forum of Wincapita.

Someone

anita! Don't wait! The sponsor has won money from you. Now he or she wants to win time! But of course, if you get the money back tomorrow you can be happy and forget this bad experience. But your sponsor won't pay you but argue; that you will get the money back but it takes time etc. Don't believe in him/her then! Go to the police!

One more important thing: Don't threat with the police because it's illegal to threat!

To all of you who have been tricked by the sponsor. Why not publish the name of him/her as a "contact-person" in this thread? If so, all of you who are missing your money can contact the sponsor and ask! If they liked to be connected to Wincapita before, and also telling you about all advantages to join the club, they surely would like to be here in this page now too...! Or what do you think?

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Vane

Maybe we have the same sponsor!

To Someone: I will wait some more days before going to the police because I know where this sponsor lives. It's not his fault (but the fault of the Finnish crook H.K.) but this guy should share more information to his sponsored members. He just sticks to the fact that this situation has happened before and that wincapita will come back.

wayne

I believe that all Moneybookers accounts which have money incoming from Wincapita have been frozen for transactions,can anyone say if they have money in their Moneybookers account which came from Wincapita and they can still access it.
Also did anyone else hear about some old time members talking about a Swiss bank which Wincapita members had a special deal with.I can see why they would want one now with Fraud Squad tracing the money from Wincapita and my guess is they won't stop with Moneybookers,they will trace money which has been wire transferred to regular bank accounts and freeze them also.

sensible

Hallo everyone!
I've been a member of wincapita for over 3 years and I'm really not that worried about all this. I was a member when the site was down for almost 4 months.First let me say that I think the lack of information from wincapita is a disaster because all it does is to fuel all this conspiracy theories. I can understand that you are worried if you are a new member and this happens, I would be to. But PLEASE, PLEASE, don't listen to people who aren't even members and who's only information is from a TV show who gets their information from public forums like this one. Yes there are finnish members who has made a lot of money and now lives in thailand and maybe it's true that one of them is a pedofile. They may all be pedofiles and wifebeaters, who knows? ( It sure would make a blockbuster TV show wouldn't it?) but they are NOT running wincapita. They are members just like you and me who can't get there money from wincapita or moneybookers right now. What this whole thing is about is that some members have been involved in moneylaundering and have started their own investment company within wincapita. This is why wincapita has closed down the site. I've talked to the finnish police myself and they told me they had nothing to do with the closedown and all these roumors about illegal pyramids it's just bullshit. I can only speak for myself but I have made good money from wc and I have sponsored my sister and her family plus my parents and I definately didn't sponsor them to make some profit from them like someone on this forum suggested. Stop worrying everything will be OK

anita

Great, some news from a Finnish member!

sensible, could you please tell us if last time the site was down they informed the members that they would close the site for several months? This time they didn't even say it and this lack of information is terrible. Using a translator I've read some Finnish news and they all say that the police is trying to track the founder, but the sponsor of my sponsor says something different

I've heard about the company within wincapita also, and I think that my sponsor is inside it (he thought those people were good people). I know my sponsor well (he is some sort of a public figure), I also know where he lives, so for now I won't do anything with the police because the mess can get bigger if I do that.

sensible

Last time it was the same thing!! No information at all. There was only a short message just like this time that the site would be closed down for an unspecified time.

oneworldmarket

Finally Great Communication! Sensible thank goodness for your communication. I have further information for you, please email me at cybertrader@safe-mail.net. In the subject line put Wincapita. Since this Forum is not secure. I am a member of course, and verified also.

wayne

Sensible,everything you wrote has appeared on other forums posted by old time members and I am sure every member wants to believe it however some of the things you state are at odds with other facts I know.
Fact-UK Fraud Squad in City of London have been told by Finnish police that Wincapita is a scam and no forex trading was ever done.
Fact-Finnish police have also told them Hannu K is a fraudster with previous convictions and is now on the run.
Fact-UK police say any money which has been sent from Wincapita remains the property of Wincapita even if it is in members MB account until investigations are concluded and then courts will decide on its ownership.
I asked a question on my previous post about whether all MB accounts had been frozen but as yet no one has replied,please feel free to pm me if you do not want the answer on the public forum and I have other information from UK police which I can not reveal on this public forum.
So as I see it if we assume that all the above is correct then what has to happen for the club to come back is this.
Firstly Hannu K and any other guys who run the club have to contact the police who have said previously they will arrest them and charge them with fraud.
Then they will have to provide sufficient evidence of trading records etc to convince police and public prosecutors that they have been running a legitimate club and have not broken any laws concerning taxes,VAT or licensing for financial trading.
Assuming they can do this the police will then want their assistance to examine every members account to check whether individual members have also been guilty of fraud,money laundering,tax evasion etc and MB accounts will remain frozen until this is completed.
I am assuming that this process will begin with the Finnish police for accounts held by Finnish nationals but then the whole process will be repeated with the UK police,Swedish police etc etc and until that is all completed accounts will remain frozen.
Even if all those hurdles are overcome it must surely be a very long time before there is any way the club could return

Someone

Vane! Perhaps it’s not the sponsors fault. But let the police investigate what he/she has done and all the valuable information he/she can give the police. You have to understand that this kind of people now want to win time! First win your money and now win the time! And it will be more difficult for every day! The time is passing!

Sensible! I can imagine that you have chosen a very adequate username to your current mental condition. You are very sensible now. Are you a sponsor who is afraid?

To all: Don’t believe that you will get the money back. Don’t believe this people. Go to the police!

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