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Old 05-29-2007, 12:54 AM   #219 (permalink)
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Default Re: Club-FX Recovery Plan

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Originally Posted by HYIPTracker View Post
First of all, nobody has the right to be screaming at anybody. If you don't know how to talk and act like a mature adult, then may I suggest you go play in the toddler's sandbox. Second of all, do any one of you know for a fact that PeterB hasn't already done everything you *demand* of him on the day it happened?
Definitely. We know for a fact that he didn't provide evidence that he was trading. We know for a fact that he didn't provide access to his e-gold account showing it was hacked (only a few people got screen shots, and we now see the screen shots have many errors). We know for a fact that he didn't provide evidence that he was talking to an attorney. We know for a fact that he didn't provide evidence that anyone loaned him any money to start a repayment plan. Yep, pretty much everything we have demanded, Peter has ignored. He's the one making the claims, so if he wants anyone to believe him, he better provide some evidence. He's failed miserably in this regard and has lost a great deal of credibility for it.
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I'm fairly certain, from personal experience, that his attorney advised him [and wisely so] to keep quiet about any and all evidence he may have.
Well this is speculation as well. I find it very odd that Peter essentially wrote off the possibility of recovering the funds almost immediately after announcing the loss. It doesn't make sense. As for the attorney advising him to keep quiet, why hasn't Peter said this is the case? Why, if this were the case, did Peter say things after claiming to contact the attorney like:
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Originally Posted by PeterB
The scammers e-gold account has been frozen and I expect any associated accounts, But as I'm sure you can emagine it can't be too hard to hide money in e-gold, I don't know if the associated accounts, associated accounts, are included, so who knows... I'm not holding my breath.
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Originally Posted by PeterB
Let's pick up, dust off, and move on, We are doing everything we can to find the hacker who might be a 42 year old man from Mexico. I don't want to say too much here about the case but know that we are on it.
By the way, the post above sounds ridiculously suspicious to me. "A 42 year old man from Mexico"? LOL
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Originally Posted by PeterB
Yes, the e-gold was accessed through the site, in spite of our best efforts to increase the security of the script it was still hacked, and that's why i never got the pin number from e-gold.
Sure sounds like he was advised not to say anything to anyone, LOL. And as has been pointed out repeatedly, he could give his attorney's contact info for someone to verify. Of course, that would be just too easy a solution. Peter is apparently averse to all easy solutions. He'd rather keep people guessing, since that'll... preserve his reputation?
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Not only that, based upon all I've seen since here and at GT, is it any wonder that PeterB has taken the approach that he has. Every single time he opened his mouth to tell people what was going on, he was accused, judged and condemned already ...
That's because what he's saying is 1) Hard to believe, and 2) Unverified. No wonder every time he opens his mouth to tell people what was going on he gets accused. The fool hasn't made an effort to validate his initial claims of a stolen fund. Of course he's being judged and condemned... he's not presenting any evidence for HIS CLAIM.
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All of your speculation is just that ... speculation ... and like opinions ... everybody has one ..... repeatedly screaming it at the top of your lungs ... or shouting down anybody who disagrees with you doesn't make your speculations fact ... now matter how much you might think it does.
We're not just speculating. We're demanding evidence for the loss. He's the one making the positive claim that the fund was stolen. He has the burden of proof for this. Thus far, his efforts have been a joke. He has not provided any persuasive evidence. And the evidence he has provided (the e-gold screen shots) just inculpate him even more.
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Now, consider this ... what if the shoe were on the other foot???

What if *YOU* were to have suffered such a terrible loss as PeterB has, and then *YOU* attempted to do the right thing in order to give back to those people that you had originally tried to help, how would *YOU* have reacted to all of the accusations and condemnation that has been spewed out against him?
I would react like someone with a brain. I'd realize that simply claiming the money was lost would be an incredibly stupid way to convince people and to help them understand what happened. I'd provide evidence for someone like Jude to confirm the loss. I'd answer questions in the threads rather than ignore them. Basically, I'd do everything that PeterB is not doing. The fact that he's not doing them strongly suggests he can't do them... which ties back in to what happened in the first place. In the paragraph above, you've already postulated that there was a hacker who stole the fund. That's one bad premise when it hasn't even been established yet.
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...
What the hell do you think this is? We're not condemning someone for sinning while being sinners ourselves. We're demanding evidence from someone who's making a pretty incredible claim. This person is providing no evidence for the claim. He's condemning himself.
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