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Richard · 04-06-2007, 07:29 PM

I'd rather discuss this here, this forum deserves the traffic unlike TG =)

Actually I don't know where to find you, your blog? I think my project has directed enough traffic there hasn't it?

Are you also saying that you feel an admin in this industry should publish their home address, telephone number etc? You mention lying to people about their information, so you think that every admin in this industry should reveal everything about them? Are you serious?

I have never owned Reindeer Surf, I can't say that enough, I didn't have any involvement with it but if they closed just as they were gaining momentum, it doesn't sound like whoever was the admin was very intelligent. If I had owned it, and it was getting popular, I wouldn't have closed it, that makes no sense to me at all. If you touched on facts with me, it would be one thing, but to keep saying I owned a site I have NO association with, well, it just plain outright disturbs me, and logically so.

I wouldn't pat myself on the back for anything, not even how I operated Wired Surf, and I wouldn't pat myself on the back for anyone another admin did (PR, PE etc). I don't think it's difficult to start a site in this industry, big deal. I think it is harder to make a comeback and I am trying to do all that I can to resolve things. We want to resolve the problems in the past, what more do you want from us?

If I were this Aaron character I would say so, then again, I probably would have reopened PR to be honest, but I'm not. All you are revealing are connections to other people in the industry, and that's obvious isn't it?

Do you not think the admin of Compact Surfing, having made so much money just abandoned this industry all together? A gold mine, and you think he just left it? What about Phoenix, I know the surf they own, do you?

It doesn't take mysterious connections or conspiracy theories to hit on something solid and real, but the information you have stated that is untrue, needs to be sorted out.

1) I did not own Reindeer Surf

2) I am not Aaron Bowering nor do I even think that is his real name

3) I do know some other 'big' sites that closed down and what they are doing now but it isn't my business to expose them. I would never try to be some savior here, I only worry about my own stuff.

4) Cathy Branch is not my wife, nor is she a friend of mine. She is someone that was involved in the industry both as an ex-employee of PR (she got fired, if you didn't know), and as a regular in our thread and forum. She helped out, was never an employee and never anyone responsible for my site.

5) Forumboost was purchased, not by me mind you, but it was moved to our host. It was hosted or was going to be by Cathy and her partner, but to my knowledge (now this is just MY knowledge, doesn't mean it's accurate) it never launched. It still sits in our domain account along with several other auto surf program domains that people abandoned and we purchased. Simon owns aaronbowering . com , does that mean he is Aaron too?

6) You have a personal problem with Aaron, it's obvious. You want to seek him out so badly you are willing to sacrifice anyone else to meet that desire. Why don't you point your investigations towards an auto surf "network" and maybe you will get somewhere.

Anyway, Leo, if I owe you anything personally I would help resolve that, but it's hard to prove I am not this or that without giving you more information about myself than I feel comfortable doing, and for being in this industry, that should be understandable.

Simon,

What the heck do we do to show that we are not Aaron Bowering without having to give our personal information away, in an industry where that could seriously be a problem with the number of unstable folks around here?

I guess I will have to just take the fall for it, and well since I am an admin of a formerly closed auto surf that upset a lot of people, I guess that's deserved regardless of the fact I am not him. I don't know but this is getting to be too much, I should have just followed the lead and opened a site with a different name. Who knows.

04-06-2007, 07:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
Richard Diaper Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 17 Portfolio: Wired Surf Fav Ecurrency: E-gold Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: WiredSurf I'd rather discuss this here, this forum deserves the traffic unlike TG =) Actually I don't know where to find you, your blog? I think my project has directed enough traffic there hasn't it? Are you also saying that you feel an admin in this industry should publish their home address, telephone number etc? You mention lying to people about their information, so you think that every admin in this industry should reveal everything about them? Are you serious? I have never owned Reindeer Surf, I can't say that enough, I didn't have any involvement with it but if they closed just as they were gaining momentum, it doesn't sound like whoever was the admin was very intelligent. If I had owned it, and it was getting popular, I wouldn't have closed it, that makes no sense to me at all. If you touched on facts with me, it would be one thing, but to keep saying I owned a site I have NO association with, well, it just plain outright disturbs me, and logically so. I wouldn't pat myself on the back for anything, not even how I operated Wired Surf, and I wouldn't pat myself on the back for anyone another admin did (PR, PE etc). I don't think it's difficult to start a site in this industry, big deal. I think it is harder to make a comeback and I am trying to do all that I can to resolve things. We want to resolve the problems in the past, what more do you want from us? If I were this Aaron character I would say so, then again, I probably would have reopened PR to be honest, but I'm not. All you are revealing are connections to other people in the industry, and that's obvious isn't it? Do you not think the admin of Compact Surfing, having made so much money just abandoned this industry all together? A gold mine, and you think he just left it? What about Phoenix, I know the surf they own, do you? It doesn't take mysterious connections or conspiracy theories to hit on something solid and real, but the information you have stated that is untrue, needs to be sorted out. 1) I did not own Reindeer Surf 2) I am not Aaron Bowering nor do I even think that is his real name 3) I do know some other 'big' sites that closed down and what they are doing now but it isn't my business to expose them. I would never try to be some savior here, I only worry about my own stuff. 4) Cathy Branch is not my wife, nor is she a friend of mine. She is someone that was involved in the industry both as an ex-employee of PR (she got fired, if you didn't know), and as a regular in our thread and forum. She helped out, was never an employee and never anyone responsible for my site. 5) Forumboost was purchased, not by me mind you, but it was moved to our host. It was hosted or was going to be by Cathy and her partner, but to my knowledge (now this is just MY knowledge, doesn't mean it's accurate) it never launched. It still sits in our domain account along with several other auto surf program domains that people abandoned and we purchased. Simon owns aaronbowering . com , does that mean he is Aaron too? 6) You have a personal problem with Aaron, it's obvious. You want to seek him out so badly you are willing to sacrifice anyone else to meet that desire. Why don't you point your investigations towards an auto surf "network" and maybe you will get somewhere. Anyway, Leo, if I owe you anything personally I would help resolve that, but it's hard to prove I am not this or that without giving you more information about myself than I feel comfortable doing, and for being in this industry, that should be understandable. Simon, What the heck do we do to show that we are not Aaron Bowering without having to give our personal information away, in an industry where that could seriously be a problem with the number of unstable folks around here? I guess I will have to just take the fall for it, and well since I am an admin of a formerly closed auto surf that upset a lot of people, I guess that's deserved regardless of the fact I am not him. I don't know but this is getting to be too much, I should have just followed the lead and opened a site with a different name. Who knows. __________________ Warm Regards, Richard Allen \| Wired Network \| Last edited by Richard : 04-06-2007 at 07:32 PM.