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And let's say in the future SurfNow closes, as one day it must, I am as confident as one can or should be in this arena, that Andy will handle things to my satisfaction. That's a chance I am willing to take with someone's world view I happen to agree with.
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The above is my quote from last July. And so it has transpired. As far as I know, no one has been left "scammed". Andy has taken care of everyone.
The simple reality is that the CSATM was ahead of its time. It worked beautifully. And the income for the surf was to come from the CSATM business.
So Andy by recognizing that the CSATM idea was not going to be embraced to the extent needed to make it a viable business in the way he had hoped, also had to accept that the legitimate revenue for the surfing program was not going to be there in the longer term.
If he was a scammer, he would have kept the surf going as a ponzi with other payment processors. But he didn't do that. When the source of funding for the surf program wasn't going to be enough, he stopped it while he could still honour all his obligations to members.
Where's the scam if nobody loses and the majority of members are in profit?
Businesses fail all the time. People who succeed in the long run don't give up. They persist. They fall off the horse, so to speak, and get back up and try again. If one thing doesn't work, they try another. That's what I see Andy doing.
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Originally Posted by slappy
Unlike most con men like "Andy," I actually work for a living
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Slappy, since when was managing an online business not work? It's bloody hard work! And how do you know anyway that Andy doesn't work at a job as well as his online business? How can you assume that?
HeyJude